Transforming Personal Growth Through Intuition and Artificial Intelligence - Kim Aronson

Embark on a transformative journey with us as we sit down with Kim Aronson, a modern-day alchemist whose unique blend of intuition and artificial intelligence is reshaping the landscape of personal growth. Kim's riveting story takes us from his early days as an art therapist in Copenhagen to his groundbreaking work as an author and tech innovator in the United States. Discover how his dyslexia paved the way for creative expression, eventually leading him to the world of technology where he crafted a social network, a dating site, and an intriguing approach to using AI for personal development. Kim shares how a chance encounter in India inspired his use of AI to bring profound insights into his Wisdom Manual series.

Our engaging discussion with Kim uncovers the pivotal role of intuition and awareness in navigating daily life. Drawing on Jungian psychology, we explore how trusting our inner voice and recognizing synchronicities can serve as powerful guideposts on the path of self-discovery. Kim illustrates how acting on intuitive insights can unlock a world of possibilities, urging us to approach self-discovery with curiosity and openness. This episode promises to inspire listeners to embrace the adventure of personal growth, underscoring that the key to unlocking one's potential is not only within reach but also within oneself.

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Chapters

• 0:02 Intuition, AI, and Personal Growth
• 15:32 Trust Your Intuition and Act
• 22:29 The Power of Awareness and Inspiration

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:02

Hey everyone, welcome back to Pleasure Principles, where we delve into the depths of human experiences, from the ecstasy of love to the quiet joy of self-discovery. I'm your host, avik, and today we have a truly unique guest, kim Aronson. So welcome to the show, kim.

Speaker 2: 0:28

Thank you so much. Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1: 0:31

Lovely, lovely. So, kim, before we start our conversation, I'd quickly love to introduce you to all of our listeners. Dear listeners, kim is a visionary who's not only navigating the modern world with the grace and the intuition, but also pioneering the future of writing with the help of AI. So Kim Dae-nan, living in the US, has published an impressive 20 self-help workbooks in his wisdom manual series and a testament to his dedication to the personal growth and his innovative approach to the authorship. But there's more to kim than meets the eye. So he's an intuitive reader, yes, and coach who guides individuals towards a more conscious life, exploring the topics like love, relationships, dating and the profound power of self-awareness. So buckle up, because we are about to embark on a fascinating journey into the mind of a modern-day alchemist, where intuition meets AI and the pursuit of pleasure intertwines with the quest for profound winning.

Speaker 2: 1:57

So that was a beautiful introduction.

Speaker 1: 2:02

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 2: 2:03

Seth, I like the modern mysticist or modern alchemist, I guess you say. I think that's pretty good, although I don't know if I'm that modern. But I am using modern technology and you know I will say that I do feel that and I've used technology before to this and I can talk about that. But for me technology is such an amazing tool to actually get to know yourself as a self-development tool. Technology you can put anything into it and I've always since, yeah, for many years, I've used technology kind of in a way to improve people's lives and the way I did that. If you don't mind, I'm going to talk a little bit about what I did earlier on, because I don't come from technology at all. My background is actually working with kids and eventually I took an art therapy education and did therapy with kids when I was back in Copenhagen, where I'm from.

Speaker 2: 3:13

But when I moved to the US in 97, I got into web design and got into technology just kind of because I was into design and I'm not really a super technical person but I'm good at learning, and so in the late 90s I started to look at technology in another way. I you know the internet was fairly new and so I saw it as a way to communicate with people, and one thing you should know about me is that I'm dyslexic. I'm not a good writer. I can read and I can write a little bit, but I'm definitely not a good writer. So I have always used other forms of creative expressions to express myself, and so I have done paintings and drawings, and so when the internet came around, I was really excited about doing web design, because it was a way for me to communicate with people.

Speaker 2: 4:05

So in the early, in the late 90s, I started to do web design, and at that point I got into creating just a small little symbol social network website that I called Mandala from the circle Mandala, and it was back. I created it in Denmark, in Danish, but I lived in the US and there was sort of a way to give it back to my old country, and I created forums where people could, you know, talk to each other and they could send digital postcards and stuff like that, and I also created a little area where people could date each other, so a little dating site. I wasn't thinking much about it, I just added all these functionalities and what happened was the dating area grew really fast and this was a 99. And so I eventually separated out the dating site for the rest of the social network website and in that way I started to run a dating site and that grew over the next many years. It grew to become really big and eventually I also started a few dating sites in the US. So that's kind of how I got into technology and I really enjoyed that very much.

Speaker 2: 5:27

And so about the books, did you have a question before I go on?

Speaker 1: 5:35

No, no.

Speaker 2: 5:36

So yeah, you please continue yeah okay, yeah, just interrupt me if I talk too much. But yeah, so when I was actually in India, when I sort of discovered AI, I wasn't really there was something. I wasn't. I wasn't really aware of it, but this was the end of 2022 and I was sitting in India and for some reason I was having to do some writing and I just ended up on a website that talked about AI. So I went to chatttp and I just typed in a little bit of what I wanted to write and I was amazed about what came out in the other end. And so when I came back to the US, I started to kind of think about how I could use AI.

Speaker 2: 6:28

And at the same time, I was teaching a class. I'm an intuitive reader and I was teaching a class online about intuitive reading for a group of young women, and it was a six-week class. And and there was a six-week class, and after each class they asked if I could just maybe write something about the exercises we did in the class, so they had something to go back to. And so I thought maybe I'll do a little PDF file with the IAI. And so I just created a little 10-page PDF after each class that I sent to the participants. I put graphics in there and I made it look nice and it was really fun.

Speaker 2: 7:11

And so after my class ended, I thought, hmm, maybe I can do more than 10 pages on a PDF. So that's when I really got into it and I started to learn about prompting and writing with AI and I went deep into the research of how it's done and what people are doing out there and what AI models are best for writing and stuff like that. So I spent a couple of months doing a lot of research about writing and expressing yourself using AI and ended up using Claude 3.5 mostly, and I use a website called Novel Crafter and that's how I started to create my books and, yeah, I can talk about the content of my books if you have any questions.

Speaker 1: 8:01

Perfect, perfect. That's really really lovely, anne. So, like as an intuitive reader, you connect with the people on a deep soul level. So how does your intuition guide your intersections? I mean interactions with the clients, like how do you integrate this wisdom into your coaching sessions?

Speaker 2: 8:30

Yeah, so that's a whole different thing. So when I moved to Berkeley, california, in 1999, and back then I was still doing web stuff but I also saw a sign outside on the street one day that said psychic classes, classes about psychics and I was curious about it. I knew I had a good intuition and I'll get back to that, but I was curious about what this psychic class was about. So I took a class there and I ended up actually signing up for a group a smaller group. There's a woman in Berkeley called Phyllis Pay who had been teaching for many years intuitive readings. A group, a smaller group there's a woman in Berkeley called Phyllis Pay who had been taught teaching for many years intuitive readings. So I signed up for her class and actually ended up being in that class for 13 years.

Speaker 2: 9:23

So I've been trained really well in doing these intuitive readings and throughout my 13 years in her class I learned many tools of doing intuitive and psychic readings and I use it a lot with myself too and I can go into details about how that works. But it is what I do with my clients too, so I tune into them and I just kind of I get a sense of where they're at, I usually have my eyes closed and I just I do it on Zoom, on person, and then I talk about their lives and if they have any questions, you know I answer their questions.

Speaker 1: 10:05

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 10:07

Okay, do you want? Me to talk about details about doing right readings, or what are you curious about? Do you want me to talk about details about doing right readings or what?

Speaker 1: 10:13

are you curious about? So basically, if we can share a specific example, that would be great, yeah.

Speaker 2: 10:23

So this method I'm using is not an unknown thing. If you read about people doing intuitive or psychic readings, a lot of people are using these tools. But basically, first of all, when you are a reader, you protect yourself, so we put something up in front of our aura. I use a rose just to not be too impacted by the person I'm sitting across. You know their energy, so I keep my energy clean. I also use colors. Um, what I do is I tune into people and their energy and that turns into a color I see, and that's the vibration of whatever that person I'm sitting in front has and what, what. The goal, the goal of any reading, like every other work I'm doing, also with my books, is to raise people's consciousness. Okay, so the way I do that is that you change the color a little bit to a little bit of a higher frequency than the one people have already, and the reason for that is, of course, to give them information that they're not aware of what they can integrate when you tell them. So if you find a vibration that's too low for them, you will start to give them information that they already know. If you go too high, you will give them information that they can't integrate. So the idea is, or the trick is, to find a vibration that's just outside their present consciousness, but something that they can integrate. So that's basically how it works technically wise. And so I'm sitting in front of people, I'm closing my eyes, and the way it works for me is I see some images, but it's mostly a feeling I'm getting Together with a little bit of images. For me it's a little blurry, like I don't see things very clear, but I get a good sense of whatever that is, and that could be pictures from their childhood, or it can be pictures from the present moment, or something that happened to them yesterday. It can be something in the future. So I talk about these pictures and then slowly, that gets me into whatever question they have or whatever information they need to know in the moment. And I've done this since 2004,. And I've had lots and lots and lots of readings and I would say that it is the information're tuning in to the right person.

Speaker 2: 13:13

So I did a reading on Zoom with a woman and we are sitting and we are talking and I see her on Zoom, but I have my eyes mostly closed, but she's sitting there and we are talking. She's sitting in a room that's a wall behind her and I'm telling her different information. At some point I'm getting this sense of having her head down in a car motor. She's kind of working as a mechanic or something and this comes up. It doesn't feel like you know. I don't know why it comes up and I'm not really trying to analyze it, I'm just telling her what I see. So I'm like I'm seeing you working on a car. Are you a mechanic or what's? Why do I get this picture? And she said he she had no idea what that would be. I'm like that's really strange. So so when that happens which happens sometimes there's an information that she can't relate to and I don't know any more information. So I just move on, which happens sometimes.

Speaker 2: 14:09

So I move on and do the rest of the reading and after the reading we chat a little bit because she's sort of a friend. So afterwards I just want to see how she's doing and stuff. And then after the reading I'm just asking her this thing about the mechanic and the car. That's kind of strange, because what do you think that was about? Maybe there was something. She had some insight afterwards and she's thinking about it a little bit. Then she said I don't understand, but my husband is a mechanic, car mechanic. I said, oh, that's interesting. And then I'm like wait, is he in the house? Yeah, yeah, he's in the house. And in fact she said, when you talk about the car mechanic, he was walking behind me, behind the wall. There's a hallway behind me. He was just walking past by me. So basically what happened was I picked up his energy for like maybe 30 seconds, and that's how the information come about.

Speaker 1: 15:01

Wow, that's truly inspiring, I'd say, kim, and to be able to tap into that unseen realm and offer guidance with such profound impact is a gift. So yeah, yeah, and, and it definitely reminds us that, um, like there's uh, there's more to the human connection than uh meets the eye, for sure, yeah, yeah yeah, we, we, um, we have to be careful.

Speaker 2: 15:32

Our logic mind it's very practical, but also sometimes it gets in its way, you know. And that is, I would say, when people ask me because I teach also about intuitive reading and I'm trying to explain people how they can do it for themselves, because everybody has some level of intuition that they can use in their daily life and usually when people ask me how they can learn to be an intuitive reader or use their intuition better. Basically, I said, half the work is trust, you know, because we all get these impulses, we all get these intuitions about something happening in our life, but a lot of time we just ignore it. So actually, if you want to be really good at this, half of the work is just to trust what it is you're feeling. If you do that, you are really far already.

Speaker 1: 16:31

Yeah, great, great, okay, yeah, great, great, and and also, um so, if, if I talk about the wisdom, so your wisdom, uh manuals are deeply rooted in uh jungin psychology. So how do you translate the complex psychological concepts into the practical, actionable steps that people can easily integrate into their daily lives?

Speaker 2: 17:05

Yeah. So when I decided I wanted to start see if I could write something, I knew that the subject would be how do I help people be more conscious Because that's basically all I do and I'm very passionate about that many different models to use. You know, how could I write a book that would be easy to understand, but also something that makes sense, and I ended up using Jung's model of the individuation process, and he has inside that he has different concepts and some of them I think most people know, like the shadow or the female and the male, so he has like 14 or 15 different concepts. Synchronicity is one of them. So for my books I chose nine of them, and so basically what I did this is a simple way of explaining it I thought about how do I help people the best? And basically everything we do, from when we get up in the morning to we go to bed at night, we can learn from. It doesn't matter if you're doing the dishes, or you're going for a walk, or you're biking, or you're dishes, or you're going for a walk or you're biking, or you're working, or you're driving a car, or whatever you're doing. You can learn from it. So that was the beginning of what I thought about. So I made a long list.

Speaker 2: 18:37

Actually, I had ideas about a hundred different books I could write, and the reason that I want to be specific about what it is people, what the concept would be like. For instance, one of the concepts I have is if you're single, for instance, right, so that's just that, that's a thing you are in life, right, you're single, or you're a mom or you're a parent or something. So it shows okay, so you're a single person. And how do I match those nine concepts of Jung's individuation process into being single? So I took one, let's say so there's nine chapters in each book and each chapter is a concept from Jung's individuation process. So, for instance, if you're single, how do you use the shadow? So I worked with AI help.

Speaker 2: 19:26

So I worked and find out what could possibly be, what kind of exercises, what kind of knowledge should people have if they are single and they want to be more conscious, and that's basically what I did. And so each chapter has a concept from Jung's individuation process and then it has three exercises and the exercises is about, for instance, with the case of the shadow, is how do you become more conscious about your shadow side as a single person, and so if you're single, one of the things is, maybe you're looking for a partner, or maybe you're lonely. What kind of problems could you probably have that you want to solve? So that's how I match things up.

Speaker 2: 20:14

So I have lots of different books about if you lose touch with your family, or if you are lonely, or if you're anxious, or you know, if you're driving, a car is one of them. You know it's so yeah. So I ended up creating 20 books, and when I was done with the 20, I sort of felt like I could keep going, but I wanted to go in another direction. So now I cheat. I have classes called Wisdom Groups, where I'm actually starting one up in January and I'm looking for people to sign up, and this is a place where people can learn more about how to reach their goals, how to find their passion.

Speaker 1: 21:00

Perfect. That's really, really awesome. I'd say it's definitely a great point, like making complex ideas accessible is the true art form. So, uh, yeah, yeah, great, and um also like for those who are listening uh, what's the one key takeaway from our conversation that you'd like them to ponder or implement in their own lives?

Speaker 2: 21:29

That's a really good question. I think I feel that the most well, there's two things. One of the most important things is, if they get an insight, they should trust it and act on it. We get so many information all the time but we kind of reject them. But trust that if you get a feeling about something, or if you get a certain insight about something you should do in life or not doing in life, take it serious and act from it. You know, act out of that knowledge that you just get, because we get so many insights all the time. We are constantly being, we constantly, our unconscious is constantly talking to us and it wants to listen. So take yourself serious. That's really important thing that will change your life, I would say. And, as I said, the other thing is if you can be aware. Awareness is really important, right. So you can be aware, notice everything that happened in your life, especially things that has some kind of feeling of synchronicity. That's a really good pointer.

Speaker 1: 22:47

Exactly Perfect, lovely, great. That's a powerful message, kim, so thank you so much for sharing your wisdom and inspiring us to live more consciously and authentically.

Speaker 2: 22:59

Well, thank you so much for having me. I really appreciate it and I miss India a lot.

Speaker 1: 23:04

I'll come back, yeah anytime, anytime for sure, and I miss India a lot. I'll come back, yeah, anytime, anytime for sure. And so, dear listeners, like there you have it, a captivating conversation with the insightful and innovative Kim Aronson. So I hope that this episode has ignited your curiosity, sparked your intuition and inspired you to explore the boundless possibilities within yourself. So remember that the journey of self-discovery is a lifelong adventure and the key lies within. So, with this, thank you so much, thank you.